J R Waugh - Decision now made

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J R Waugh - Decision now made

Post by daggers » 08 Nov 2013 16:52

No JR Waugh listed by CWGC. A possible:
J. Waugh, private, 204569, 5th Battalion, King's Liverpool Regt., d. 10 Oct 1917, bur: B, Old Yard, 10, St Anne's, Stanley.

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Re: J R Waugh - information not yet known

Post by alcavtay » 08 Nov 2013 18:32

possible - although the address in Egremont isn't promising!

Liverpool Echo 22 Feb 1918
WAUGH - in loving remembrance of Rifleman JOSEPH RODERICK WAUGH (Our Joe), King's Royal Rifles, died of wounds, France, February 22, 1917 (one of the best) - deeply mourned by his Dad, sister Nellie (in Canada) brothers Clarence and Sydney, 7, North View Terrace, Egremont

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WAUGH, J
Rank: Rifleman
Service No: R/20401
Date of Death: 22/02/1917
Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps 1st Bn.
Grave Reference VI. A. 14.
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Re: J R Waugh - information not yet known

Post by Katie » 08 Nov 2013 19:13

King's Royal Rifle Corps
Waugh
R/20401
Joseph Roderick
Rifleman
Egremont
22nd February 1917
Died of Wounds
7, North View Terrace, Egremont, Cheshire

Source: 12/3/1917-DP

King's Liverpool Regiment
Waugh
204569
Joseph
Private
Old Swan
10th October 1917
Previously reported wounded, now reported Died of wounds
Brother of William Waugh, of 6, Ajax Street, Liverpool. Husband of Mrs. Waugh, of 9, Childers Street, Old Swan
Source: 20/10/17-Echo
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Re: J R Waugh - information not yet known

Post by dickiesam » 08 Nov 2013 23:37

Re:
possible - although the address in Egremont isn't promising!
Birth: WAUGH, Joseph Roderick
Registration district: Birkenhead, Cheshire
Year of registration: 1892; Dec qtr
Volume no: 8A; Page no: 560

1901: RG13 Piece: 3488 Folio: 62 Page: 30
Address: 63,Mulliner Street, West Derby, Lancashire
WAUGH, Frederick W Head Widower 40 1861 Artist - Liverpool
WAUGH, Clarence F Son 14 1887 - Liverpool
WAUGH, Sydney H Son 12 1889 - Liverpool
WAUGH, Evelyn G Dtr 10 1891 - N K, Cheshire
WAUGH, Joseph R Son 9 1892 - N K, Cheshire
KEENAN, Charlotte House Keeper Md 45 1856 - Liverpool

1910+1:
Birkenhead
Address: 7 North View Terrace, Stringhey Road, Egremont, Cheshire
WAUGH, Frederick William Head 50 1861 Artist - Liverpool
WAUGH, Mary Alice Wife [Md 9 yrs] 40 1871 - Northwich, Cheshire
WAUGH, Evelyn Gladys Dtr 19 1892 - Seacombe.
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BROWN, William, Father-in-law and BROWN, Elizabeth, Mother-in-law, and 5 more Browns.
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by MaryA » 09 Nov 2013 11:07

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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by daggers » 09 Nov 2013 13:00

Rock View: there were two of them, confusingly:
one off Torr Street, Everton, the other in the Old Swan area.
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by Katie » 09 Nov 2013 16:45

I don't think the soldier from Egremont is the J.R. Waugh on St. Cryprian. My gut instinct is the Soldier from the Old Swan Area. And I have just checked the Schedule for the 1911 and it is Rock View, Old Swan. Just need to confirm. I have located a marriage between Richard Joseph Waugh and Elizabeth M O'Reilly in 1910 WDRO Registrar attended.

I need to check the entry in the Liverpool Echo and go from there.
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by Katie » 09 Nov 2013 18:08

Ok! Been doing a bit of delving into this Waugh Family and here is what I have found

Birth Registration June qtr 1881 Richard Waugh West Derby
Birth Registration june qtr 1883 Joseph Waugh West Derby

1891 Census

William Waugh 44
Mary Waugh 46
Phoebe Waugh 23
Thomas Waugh 20
William Waugh 18
Katherine Waugh 12
Richard Waugh 9
Joseph Waugh 7


The son Thomas Waugh marries 13th May 1894 at All Saints to

Elizabeth Knowles aged 22 daughter of Thomas Knowles a Cooper dec.

Thomas Waugh Died in 1904 and she then marries Joseph Waugh at St Nicholas:-

21st Feb 1909

Joseph Waugh-27-Bachelor-Carter-Canterbury Street-William Waugh-Cotton Porter

Elizabeth Knowles-33-Spinster-Canterbury Street-Thomas Knowles-Cooper-Dec.

I can't locate a Richard Waugh on the 1901 Census so if anyone can assist.

William Waugh who is the father of Richard and Joseph Waugh is residing in Binns Road, Wavertree in 1911.
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by MaryA » 09 Nov 2013 18:36

Marriage on 16 April, 1910 at St Oswald.
Ricardum Joseph Waugh of 46 Reform Street, Edge Lane, father Gulielum Waugh and
Elizabeth Monicam OReilly of 9 Rock View, father Caroli OReilly
Witnesses Thomas McDermott 5 Victoria Place and Sarah Clark 55 Ashworth Street
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by Katie » 09 Nov 2013 18:38

We can rule out Richard Waugh just found his burial at Yew Tree Cemetery in 1958 Address is given as 76 Childers Street, Old Swan.
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by Katie » 09 Nov 2013 18:40

Thanks Mary that confirms Richard Joseph Waugh and Joseph Waugh are brothers. Just need to get the connection to St Cryprian. It will have to wait till I get down the Archives and look in some directories.
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by MaryA » 09 Nov 2013 18:45

And his medal card
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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by Revdem » 03 Oct 2017 13:55

I know this discussion was a while back, but thought folk might like to know that on Sunday 8th Oct, (as the closest Sunday to his death) following our Parish Eucharist at 10am we shall be remembering Private Joseph R Waugh 204569 with a procession to his grave, the choir will sing 'We will remember them' and the Last Post shall be played. Members of the King's Regiment shall also be in attendance. Folk are more than welcome to join us in this memorial of 100 years since he gave his life.

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Re: J R Waugh - Decision to be made which soldier this is

Post by daggers » 03 Oct 2017 22:28

Thank you for putting us in the picture and welcome to the forum. From what you have given here we can now see that the soldier is remembered by the War Graves Commission as:

Private WAUGH, J
Service Number 204569
Died 10/10/1917
5th Bn.
The King's (Liverpool Regiment)

and that his grave is at St Anne, Stanley, Prescot Road.

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